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senator debby stabenow of michigan is on the finance committee. she's going to join us in the next hour. but, up here first, number three on the first five web stories. >> you see that? that was the moment of impact of a deadly plane crash in moscow. a plane veered off the run way and on to a highway, broke up into pieces, caught fire. investigators are examining the flight recorder to find out what caused the crash. five people on board that plane were killed. nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. ha
senator debby stabenow of michigan is on the finance committee. she's going to join us in the next hour. but, up here first, number three on the first five web stories. >> you see that? that was the moment of impact of a deadly plane crash in moscow. a plane veered off the run way and on to a highway, broke up into pieces, caught fire. investigators are examining the flight recorder to find out what caused the crash. five people on board that plane were killed. nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male...
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. >>> the newtown shooting happened a day after state lawmakers in michigan passed a bill that will allow gun owners with permits to carry a concealed weapon with previously banned places, including schools. representative clark, thank you for being here. i -- i know this bill passage is coincidental, of course, but can you put it all into perspective for us? >> you know, this is very difficult for me. personally, when i was 9 years old. i grew up in the city of detroit, i saw a man murdered right in front of me, shot in the head and died in front of me. and for the next 26 years of my life, i never spoke about the incident. so while our country supports the families of the victims, i also want us to continue to provide love and support to those who physically survived that incident. >> representative clarke, i'm so sorry you had to experience that. it is clear that is something that has not left you. will never leave you. how often do you think about that? >> i think it's the fact that i chose not to remember it, for more than two decades of my life, that if i had -- if i could have just
. >>> the newtown shooting happened a day after state lawmakers in michigan passed a bill that will allow gun owners with permits to carry a concealed weapon with previously banned places, including schools. representative clark, thank you for being here. i -- i know this bill passage is coincidental, of course, but can you put it all into perspective for us? >> you know, this is very difficult for me. personally, when i was 9 years old. i grew up in the city of detroit, i saw a...
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old friend and obama adviser david axelrod was so confident president obama would win pennsylvania, michigan, and minnesota he bet his mustache. he soon turned the bet into a challenge with joe to raise money for epilepsy. he's championed the cause in support of his daughter. thanks to joe and mika, they met their goal of $1 million raised, and ax lived up with his pledge. here is "morning joe" today. >> i have been staring at it for 40 years, savannah. i'm very attached to it. i was up all night, to be honest with you. >> oh, good lord. >> it's a little unsettling. >> well, here you can see side by side before and after footage of ax. what do you think? coming up next, "your business" with j.j. ramberg. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8.
old friend and obama adviser david axelrod was so confident president obama would win pennsylvania, michigan, and minnesota he bet his mustache. he soon turned the bet into a challenge with joe to raise money for epilepsy. he's championed the cause in support of his daughter. thanks to joe and mika, they met their goal of $1 million raised, and ax lived up with his pledge. here is "morning joe" today. >> i have been staring at it for 40 years, savannah. i'm very attached to it....
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see what people are saying about yesterday's cut gut check about michigan's right-to-work law you a subject of the an editorial in the "detroit free press" say thank says unions need to be reminded what life was like without them and unions built the middle class. we asked you, do you think unions helped grow the middle class? 92% of you said yes. 8% said no. that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with us. i'm tamron hall. we will be back here tomorrow. "the cycle" is up next. spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends wo
see what people are saying about yesterday's cut gut check about michigan's right-to-work law you a subject of the an editorial in the "detroit free press" say thank says unions need to be reminded what life was like without them and unions built the middle class. we asked you, do you think unions helped grow the middle class? 92% of you said yes. 8% said no. that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with us. i'm tamron hall. we will be back here...
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i bring it up as backdrop to this michigan debate. if you're a union leader there, do you want to lose all the jobs or get a job at 18, $19 an hour? >> if you're a union leader, you probably vote for fewer jobs at higher wages because you will protect your base. if you're an average michigan person, which is why this thing is probably reasonably popular there, i just want a job and willing to take it at $14.50 a job. >> last week, apple announced the same thing, they're bringing jobs back. executives said they had a duty to do it. it was their obligation to do it. >> when you do something for that reason, it's not a huge number. >>> guys, read the atlantic monthly. we had the author on. james on, come back. the suggestion in this article at least, outsourcing was a fad, a corporate fad. some businesses trying to make a quick buck over a decade. at the end of the day, it didn't work and even if it worked for a while, it doesn't work in our economy. >> saying it's a fad is a really dangerous thing to say. that's not what it was. it wasn
i bring it up as backdrop to this michigan debate. if you're a union leader there, do you want to lose all the jobs or get a job at 18, $19 an hour? >> if you're a union leader, you probably vote for fewer jobs at higher wages because you will protect your base. if you're an average michigan person, which is why this thing is probably reasonably popular there, i just want a job and willing to take it at $14.50 a job. >> last week, apple announced the same thing, they're bringing...
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it's a winter wonderland anywhere in the state of michigan. it snowed hard last night, northern indiana and much of the state of ohio right now is seeing snow. careful driving, interstate 70 going across the lower portions of the great lakes and the ohio valley. and the winds are gusting, too. we probably have a little bit of blowing and drifting snow in indiana, michigan and ohio. and again, those winds this morning around new york city could get as high as 60 miles per hour. the worst of it coming in the next three hours. so keep that in mind as you're driving on the roads or doing anything outdoors. as far as snowfall goes, over the next 24 to 48 hours, we're going to get lake-effect bands. we're also going to see snow on the backside of this big storm. western new york will get a good coating of snow between three to six inches in most locations. so the forecast over the next three days, today's the worst travel day by far, great lakes and the northeast. thankfully as we go through the weekend, it's a little chilly across the country, but
it's a winter wonderland anywhere in the state of michigan. it snowed hard last night, northern indiana and much of the state of ohio right now is seeing snow. careful driving, interstate 70 going across the lower portions of the great lakes and the ohio valley. and the winds are gusting, too. we probably have a little bit of blowing and drifting snow in indiana, michigan and ohio. and again, those winds this morning around new york city could get as high as 60 miles per hour. the worst of it...
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we want a michigan for everybody. and i think you see the turnout today, you hear the reaction around the state of michigan, people don't want the right-wing agenda that's being passed in this lame duck. >> reporter: here's my question. the argument that the governor makes and republicans here and supporters of this is why not give individual workers a choice to join the union if they want to join the union. wouldn't it make you and the leaders of the unions present a case to be part of it? why not give them that choice? >> they already have that choice. again, the right wing doesn't put the honest facts out there. under u.s. labor law, people have a choice -- >> reporter: that's true, but if you work on the line at ford or gw -- or gm, you have to pay in a large percentage of those union dues. that's the way it works. >> you don't have to be a union member. but you have to pay your fair share. just like if you live in a community, you pay for your fair share of the road cleaning, of the police, of the fire. people wh
we want a michigan for everybody. and i think you see the turnout today, you hear the reaction around the state of michigan, people don't want the right-wing agenda that's being passed in this lame duck. >> reporter: here's my question. the argument that the governor makes and republicans here and supporters of this is why not give individual workers a choice to join the union if they want to join the union. wouldn't it make you and the leaders of the unions present a case to be part of...
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kevin tweets, "michigan must be crazy. right to work legislation quickly brings lower wages. aren't they suffering enough?" and ellen vollbrecht says "the name right to work is one of the biggest cons. it's not right to work. it's the right to be fired for any reason whether right or wrong." keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. >>> coming up, apple ceo tim cook announces plans to produce some of their computers right here in the united states. i'll ask e.j. dionne if the move could cause other companies to rethink where they're manufacturing. stay with us. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. take an extra 10 percent off storewide, now through sunday. [ male announcer ] marie callender's puts everything you've grown to love about sunday dinner into each of her pot pies. tender white meat chicken and vegetables in a crust made from scratch. marie callender's. it's time to savor. >>> and we are back. the congressman who
kevin tweets, "michigan must be crazy. right to work legislation quickly brings lower wages. aren't they suffering enough?" and ellen vollbrecht says "the name right to work is one of the biggest cons. it's not right to work. it's the right to be fired for any reason whether right or wrong." keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. >>> coming up, apple ceo tim cook announces plans to produce some of their computers right here in...
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the president was in michigan speaking before autoworkers and selling his tax plan. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everyone is going to see their income taxes go um. it's true. you all don't like that. we can solve this problem. all congress needs to do is pass a law that could prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody. [ applause ] that means 98% of americans and probably a hundred percent of ewe. >> some americans are slowly but steadily facing on the reality of fiscal americans. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we had one house. that's it. the presidency and the senates and the democrat's hands. so a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i actually think it has merit where you go in and give the president the two percent increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top two percent. and, all of the sudden, the shift goes back to entitlement. >> well,
the president was in michigan speaking before autoworkers and selling his tax plan. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everyone is going to see their income taxes go um. it's true. you all don't like that. we can solve this problem. all congress needs to do is pass a law that could prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody. [ applause ] that means 98% of americans and probably a hundred percent of ewe....
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now, it's in michigan. and what is going on is that when republicans particularly when there's a republican governor and republican state legislator they're going hard right at organized labor and also been a very chief ally of the democratic party. and so far republicans have been able to mess with organized labor and score political points in doing so. >> we have a map actually up with 23 right to work states right now and it was so interesting, mark, that the former governor of michigan john engler on with chuck todd and discussed the right to work prospect and when he was leaving the state. >> it was something that we always talked about but it was -- it was at that time in the region there were no right to work states. indiana moving to right to work status changed the game in the midwest. now your neighbor is able to compete dlimpbt r differently. >> i want to take the audience to michigan. president obama discussing the fiscal cliff. let's listen in. >> make sure your kids can go to a good school. ma
now, it's in michigan. and what is going on is that when republicans particularly when there's a republican governor and republican state legislator they're going hard right at organized labor and also been a very chief ally of the democratic party. and so far republicans have been able to mess with organized labor and score political points in doing so. >> we have a map actually up with 23 right to work states right now and it was so interesting, mark, that the former governor of...
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last week, michigan congressman justin amash said this at an event. >> i think they are willing to raise taxes to avoid any defense cuts, and i think they are willing to take really bad deals to avoid any defense cuts, even a few dollars. a party that's not even willing to look and say, can we reduce defense spending to george w. bush levels, that's a frightening scenario. >> meanwhile, even more goppers are breaking ranks on taxes, saying they would allow tax cuts on the wealthy to expire. joining us now to make sense of all this, the house democratic whip, congressman steny hoyer of maryland. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. >> alex, that's a tall order to make sense of what we're doing. >> we're looking to you like a lighthouse in the darkness. congressman hoyer, let's talk about -- we talked a lot about republicans and where they are, and i'm certainly keen to hear your thoughts, but in terms of the democrats, there seems to be a very firm stance at present on the left, which is we are not touching entitlement programs. are you at all concerned about getting the dems to th
last week, michigan congressman justin amash said this at an event. >> i think they are willing to raise taxes to avoid any defense cuts, and i think they are willing to take really bad deals to avoid any defense cuts, even a few dollars. a party that's not even willing to look and say, can we reduce defense spending to george w. bush levels, that's a frightening scenario. >> meanwhile, even more goppers are breaking ranks on taxes, saying they would allow tax cuts on the wealthy to...
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kevin tweets, "michigan must be crazy. right to work legislation quickly brings lower wages. aren't they suffering enough?" and ellen vollbrecht says "the name right to work is one of the biggest cons. it's not right to work. it's the right to be fired for any reason whether right or wrong." keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. >>> coming up, apple ceo tim cook announces plans to produce some of their computers right here in the united states. i'll ask e.j. dionne if the move could cause other companies to rethink where they're manufacturing. stay with us. and we can save you 10% on ground shipping over the ups store. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> a
kevin tweets, "michigan must be crazy. right to work legislation quickly brings lower wages. aren't they suffering enough?" and ellen vollbrecht says "the name right to work is one of the biggest cons. it's not right to work. it's the right to be fired for any reason whether right or wrong." keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. >>> coming up, apple ceo tim cook announces plans to produce some of their computers right here in...
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win, and i think if he had run this time, he had -- he could have got all those blue collar guys in michigan, all the blue collar guys in ohio, all the blue collar guys in wisconsin. he's a blue collar guy, and he would have won the south anyway. he would have been a great candidate. the question is is -- >> when did you start saying this? >> i said it on your show. the question is in four years can he maintain that. >> let's not talk about four years. let's talk about right now. don't do that. don't do what you just said. this is what it looks like right now. >> right now he would be a great candidate. >> shrummy, let's talk about culture. you're a student of popular culture. something says to me it's jersey's turn. it just is. if you don't buy it, say you don't buy that. >> i don't buy that. i think this guy is really interesting. he's a big winner in 2012 -- >> would you ever back a republican under any circumstance over any democrat ever? >> it depends who the democrat was -- >> have you ever done it? >> as a general proposition, no. >> have you ever done it? >> no. >> then make that cle
win, and i think if he had run this time, he had -- he could have got all those blue collar guys in michigan, all the blue collar guys in ohio, all the blue collar guys in wisconsin. he's a blue collar guy, and he would have won the south anyway. he would have been a great candidate. the question is is -- >> when did you start saying this? >> i said it on your show. the question is in four years can he maintain that. >> let's not talk about four years. let's talk about right...
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michigan governor rick snyder saw republicans in his state legislature pass a bill to allow guns in schools and day care centers. the bill was passed one day before the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. today the republican governor vetoed the bill. according to the detroit news, snyder vetoed the bill because it wouldn't allow schools and other public locations to opt out of its provisions. in the past 24 hours, republican members of congress said that some gun restrictions are worth looking into. senator susan collins of maine, congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania and lindsey graham of south carolina, they are all pro-gun. they are all open to looking at gun control solutions. there is also congressman jack kingston of georgia. in the past, this gentleman has voted to cut down the waiting period, the number of days for gun purchases. he vetoed -- or should i say he voted for broader concealed to carry weapons laws. the nra gave kingston an "a" rating for his voting record today this staunch advocate opened the door for change. >> we see a huge problem like this, and it's a problem that
michigan governor rick snyder saw republicans in his state legislature pass a bill to allow guns in schools and day care centers. the bill was passed one day before the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. today the republican governor vetoed the bill. according to the detroit news, snyder vetoed the bill because it wouldn't allow schools and other public locations to opt out of its provisions. in the past 24 hours, republican members of congress said that some gun restrictions are worth looking...
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. >> i grew up in mccomb county, michigan. southern mccomb county is very different than northern mccomb county. there is a lot more wealth in northern mccomb county. you think of the rings around philly. the closer you are they're really monied and now and further away and it is sort of the split of the burbs. >> it is something when we redo the groups i want to look at. i don't know if we're there yet. that is coming. i'm convinced. just not sure yet. >> i know i'll have you back at least one more time before the end of the year. there is so much to dig into. >> a lot of numbers. >> i tweeted out your map. >> thank you. >> that was something else. wait a minute. there's like a special here. always good to see you. >> thank you. white house soup of the day, chicken tortilla. totally have nothing to say about this in the fiscal cliff. right back. you ever notice that some people just have a knack for giving the perfect gift? they put real thought into it. and find just... the right...thing. how do they do that? more saving. mo
. >> i grew up in mccomb county, michigan. southern mccomb county is very different than northern mccomb county. there is a lot more wealth in northern mccomb county. you think of the rings around philly. the closer you are they're really monied and now and further away and it is sort of the split of the burbs. >> it is something when we redo the groups i want to look at. i don't know if we're there yet. that is coming. i'm convinced. just not sure yet. >> i know i'll have you...
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my grandmother on a farm in michigan had a ring telephone, no electricity, an outhouse and she watched the first guy walk on the moon. >> i would like to see the next generation leave footprints like we have on the moon. i hope that happens. >> wow, a shining example of inspiration and american greatness. that program tonight, 9:00 p.m., fox news special, fly me to the moon, astronauts heading space. the never heard before stories tonight right here. you can hear from one of the mission members here in just a bit. astronaut rusty shahwihearth. >> don't miss the special. >> a shocking nfl tragedy leaves one player dead and defensive line lineman josh brent faces charges. how did it happen? what does the dallas cowboys front office say about the players? >> the flu is on the way. health officials warning of a looming crisis. why they say we could see the worst outbreak of the flu in nearly a decade. coming up, how to protect yourself and your loved ones. we'll tell you about that in "sunday house call." can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's
my grandmother on a farm in michigan had a ring telephone, no electricity, an outhouse and she watched the first guy walk on the moon. >> i would like to see the next generation leave footprints like we have on the moon. i hope that happens. >> wow, a shining example of inspiration and american greatness. that program tonight, 9:00 p.m., fox news special, fly me to the moon, astronauts heading space. the never heard before stories tonight right here. you can hear from one of the...
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now michigan will become the 24th right to work state. alex perez, abc news, lansing, michigan. >>> and we have another milestone tonight for american taxpayers. perhaps the most infamous bailout of the whole financial collapse was the rescue of corporate giant aig. taxpayers, you may remember, poured $182 billion into the company to keep it afloat. but today, the u.s. treasury sold its last share of aig stock. and it turns out, taxpayers made a profit of $22.7 billion. and today, that good news sent a jolt across wall street. the dow closing up, the fifth straight day of gains. the longest rally since march. >>> we want to show you an image that came into our news room today. imagine seeing this through your front windshield. it was the scene on an interstate highway in west virginia today. a massive gas line explosion, flames 75 feet high. so intense firefighters couldn't even approach. eye witnesses say it sounded like a boeing 757. the fire raging for an hour, completely destroying four homes, damaging five others and leaving two peop
now michigan will become the 24th right to work state. alex perez, abc news, lansing, michigan. >>> and we have another milestone tonight for american taxpayers. perhaps the most infamous bailout of the whole financial collapse was the rescue of corporate giant aig. taxpayers, you may remember, poured $182 billion into the company to keep it afloat. but today, the u.s. treasury sold its last share of aig stock. and it turns out, taxpayers made a profit of $22.7 billion. and today, that...
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it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired. the union said, have you to pay for a union strike in new york, or we will get you fired when i was writing editorials against the strike in new york. so this is the -- it is that kind of coercion, which is coming to an end, everywhere. you heard it right here. the folks in michigan said, we looked at indiana, they are gettingions, businesses are coming in there. that's why we did it. they look south, where are the foreign companies coming? spartanburg, south carolina, bmwar plants, mercedes, tuscaloosa. volkswagen volkswagen, chattanooga, nissan plant. whe
it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired....
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congressman from michigan mark shower who served in the michigan state legislature for 12 years. thank you both for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: mark, let me begin with you. how could this happen in michigan? this is the bluest state we get. union movement has deep roots a deep history. what explains the dynamic that suddenly a right-to-work law a label i reject, how could this law pass in michigan? >> the irony is yesterday chrysler announced $120 million investment in michigan. 115 new jobs. michigan has helped lead the economic comeback for this country in part because of historic collective bargaining agreements between the detroit three and the united autoworkers. we have a labor management partnership that works. this, as you said was about politics. it was about gutting organized labor and the irony is i work for a labor management fund connected with a laborer's union and we invest almost $5 million a year in apprenticeship and training programs. we operate skilled workers to build complicated infrastructure projects like the governor wants to
congressman from michigan mark shower who served in the michigan state legislature for 12 years. thank you both for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: mark, let me begin with you. how could this happen in michigan? this is the bluest state we get. union movement has deep roots a deep history. what explains the dynamic that suddenly a right-to-work law a label i reject, how could this law pass in michigan? >> the irony is yesterday chrysler announced...
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. >>> and finally, the only football in action was the little caesars pizza bowl with central michigan beating western kentucky 24-21. >>> now for another look at the weather, here's nbc's meteorologist dylan dreyer with the forecast. good morning again. >> good morning to you, too. the storm finally starting to pull away, although now it's northern new england that is going to see the heaviest of the snow. temperatures across northern new england are cold enough for snow, but right along the coast itself with current temperatures right now in the upper 30s and lower 40s, means it's all falling as rain right now. the cold air is sitting back into billings, montana, minneapolis and areas across the northern plains dealing with temperatures in the single digits right now. topping out only in the teens and 20s. we will see rain from boston down into new york city, although it will improve through the day. winds remain fairly strong all across the eastern seaboard, but the heaviest of the snow with perhaps another foot of snow possible in northern new york state, northern vermont and new h
. >>> and finally, the only football in action was the little caesars pizza bowl with central michigan beating western kentucky 24-21. >>> now for another look at the weather, here's nbc's meteorologist dylan dreyer with the forecast. good morning again. >> good morning to you, too. the storm finally starting to pull away, although now it's northern new england that is going to see the heaviest of the snow. temperatures across northern new england are cold enough for...
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>> guest: when i started doing legal history at michigan and started leading all the legal history staff, did a dissertation about the draft that was enacted during the civil war, the first national draft act. from reading the documents i read, all the materials generated by government agencies and even legal history of the law at the very concerned about how power is exercised and whether there's a voice for people not in power. how did the powerless get somebody to listen to them which is what i love so much about the commission because i was insisting on listening to people. when you go to san antonio, texas and was the first hearing the commission had held on the tenets that i write about in the book. there'll these latinos who nobodies listen to them in case they were kicked out of school because they spoke spanish and was told was a dirty language. all these people, education was awful. we listen to them. when you go and read about the kind of book who was run over by a car in 1851 in the commission was sent to him because he was a korean war veteran and a sheriff stopped a car and
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from the white man he was president from university of mish station michigan. the secretary of labor thought he was a moderate i read all of the white house files i did not just serve on the commission i got all the files and we had all of it so we could see inside though one lone black guy in the eisenhower white house the listlessly to have names to a point* people he said he will not get in trouble making him do it. but there was the a professor from motor dame another important figure 57 mary frances berry when did you serve as tear? >>guest: i came to the commission in 1980 after serving in the carter administration running education programs for after being chancellor the university of colorado boulder people said was the first woman to be a the stage at a research university. i had a fight with ronald reagan even though i was a commissioner one of my latino women was the only other minority we would dissent when they would try to do something that was terrible. we had a big fight with him but i went to all of those. >>host: but president carter appointed
from the white man he was president from university of mish station michigan. the secretary of labor thought he was a moderate i read all of the white house files i did not just serve on the commission i got all the files and we had all of it so we could see inside though one lone black guy in the eisenhower white house the listlessly to have names to a point* people he said he will not get in trouble making him do it. but there was the a professor from motor dame another important figure 57...
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is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at the top of his agenda. he had the budget deficit situation, the job killing tax he tried to get fix, but saw the results in indiana when governor mitch daniels made indiana a right to work state. is that what michigan is looking to, to try to figure out how to jump-start this economy that's lagged at 18.9% unemployment rate? it's too much to bear for workers there. >> governor snyder has been consistent from the beginning that it wasn't on his agenda yet, but he's been successful at leading us through dramatic changes in michigan. we are the comeback state, but now with the data that we've received from the blessings of having to work through proposal two, it's clear that they want us to become
is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at the top of his agenda. he had the budget deficit situation, the job killing tax he tried to get fix, but saw the results in indiana when governor mitch daniels made...
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we want that here in michigan. the difference between michigan and indiana is indiana is a red state. they did not vote for the president this year. this state voted for the president by nine points, so the question is, in two years, when we possibly have a new governor, possibly a new legislature, does this get overturned. will companies be willing to really come in and plant their foot here and create jobs here? that's a big question. >> they may have voted for a democratic president but they have both an assembly and senate that are majority republican. stand by for a moment. i want to bring in john avlon to bring us perspective on this. break it down, when we talk about the employment economies of states that are right to work states and states that are not right to work states. is one better than the other? >> this really gets to the heart of cutting through the spin, because there are so many partisan special interests that do the analysis. we called the bureau of labor statistics. it is clear that right to w
we want that here in michigan. the difference between michigan and indiana is indiana is a red state. they did not vote for the president this year. this state voted for the president by nine points, so the question is, in two years, when we possibly have a new governor, possibly a new legislature, does this get overturned. will companies be willing to really come in and plant their foot here and create jobs here? that's a big question. >> they may have voted for a democratic president...
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and there was also michigan passing a right to work and making them the 24th state with such laws. the events of this year can leave anyone with mixed feelings and uncertainty about the future of organized labor, but that is looking at the glass half empty and in direct opposition of what labor has stood for in this country, hunkering down and getting the job down. uaw president bob king understands very well that the fight is far from over. >> we are going to continue until people know what this ideological agenda is. it is about suppression of women's rights, labor rights and immigrant rights and it is really about what kind of america do we want. the only way to win is to have a broad coalition to rebuild a social justice movement in the united states. >> bob gets it, but this year does not signal an end to the labor union, but labor is regrouping and reforming using the setbacks and the defeats as a springboard as renewed and more inclusive action. organized labor can no longer be just auto workers or electricians, be us manyt include hotel and retail and domestic workers as we
and there was also michigan passing a right to work and making them the 24th state with such laws. the events of this year can leave anyone with mixed feelings and uncertainty about the future of organized labor, but that is looking at the glass half empty and in direct opposition of what labor has stood for in this country, hunkering down and getting the job down. uaw president bob king understands very well that the fight is far from over. >> we are going to continue until people know...
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one of those survey, university of michigan, people are more confident about employment prospects than at any point since 1984. these judge people's change in feeling mono. you can't compare your feelings five years ago to today. it may be we look like we're feeling better but if you got someone in the room from 2008 they may feel worse. people are feeling more at ease. on the plus side the employment situation isn't getting better but it stopped getting worse. incomes are up a little bit. people have been saving for four years. they don't have nearly as much debt and rates are low. there's a lot of factors coming into this. the housing market is picking up. nothing like it was. but better than it has been in recent memory. there's a lot of reasons why people in general are feeling better which doesn't mean there aren't 20, 30, 40 million people who are doing poorly. >> here's the $6 million question. here we have a situation where most americans are more optimistic, businesses are more pessimistic inverse to the last couple of years when businesses are optimistic and people were pessi
one of those survey, university of michigan, people are more confident about employment prospects than at any point since 1984. these judge people's change in feeling mono. you can't compare your feelings five years ago to today. it may be we look like we're feeling better but if you got someone in the room from 2008 they may feel worse. people are feeling more at ease. on the plus side the employment situation isn't getting better but it stopped getting worse. incomes are up a little bit....
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if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs, some inflatable rafts, often a symbol of union protests, sitting on the lawn outside here and inside, yes, there are protesters inside, especially right where the gallery is, right where the house floor is, because they want to watch the house in action when it begins in session at 10:00 a.m. in about an hour, so they'll be able to watch the legislative process at work. but there's a huge spillover crowd inside the capitol building, a huge crowd, a couple hundred, in each rotunda on three floors chanting, you can hear their voices inside the capital, once you walk in, you can hear their voices reverb ra
if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs,...
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nbc's rob mott now with the details. >> reporter: good day to you from the michigan state capital where we saw a lot of protesters out here protesting two measures that the house passed today that would bar unions from forcing people to join those unions as a condition of employment. sometime tomorrow governor rick schneider is expected to sign them into law make michigan the 24th right-to-work state in the country, joining a lot of others where the gop has majority in the state legislatures. now, a lot of these workers today were dismayed at the timing of all of this. this is taking place during a lame duck session of the legislature when a new body is being sworn in here, and in a month's time it's going to have a few more democrats than we saw here today, so when i sat down with the governor this afternoon i asked him why not delay this just a little bit longer, let a new body come in and give workers and people around the state of michigan more opportunity to debate this issue. he says it was not going to go away, that it doesn't make any sense to allow this debate to continue, that
nbc's rob mott now with the details. >> reporter: good day to you from the michigan state capital where we saw a lot of protesters out here protesting two measures that the house passed today that would bar unions from forcing people to join those unions as a condition of employment. sometime tomorrow governor rick schneider is expected to sign them into law make michigan the 24th right-to-work state in the country, joining a lot of others where the gop has majority in the state...
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steve hartman "on the road" in midland, michigan. >> and that's the "cbs evening news." i'll see you sunday on "60 minutes." for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night. i'm allen martin. i'm allen martin. california's unemployment re ha the >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. >>> i'm juliette goodrich. >> i'm allen martin. california's unemployment rate has not been this good since the recession began four years ago. but are the numbers truly indicative of a rebounded? there are a lot of factors that go into the single-digit jobless rate. cbs 5 reporter grace lee with why it may be too quick to say we have finally turned the corner. >> reporter: juliette, our state still has the third worst unemployment rate in the nation. we're well above the national rate. so we spoke with a former director of the state's labor department who says that the unemployment rate is really just one piece of the overall economic picture and it may look better than it actually is. >> i think the rate it's important but it means less and less of indicating what's
steve hartman "on the road" in midland, michigan. >> and that's the "cbs evening news." i'll see you sunday on "60 minutes." for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night. i'm allen martin. i'm allen martin. california's unemployment re ha the >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald. >>> i'm juliette goodrich. >> i'm allen martin. california's unemployment rate has not been this good since the recession began four...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan, and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv, not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think i speak for howard dean when i say, so now you tell me. >>> up next, not only does president obama have math on his side, he's got the polls too. he's taking his fiscal cliff case on the road. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. suddenly, she does something unexpected and you see the woman you fell in love with. she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet a
we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan, and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv, not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think...
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michigan state police inspector is here. good evening. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: were you outside on the grounds yesterday when this went down? >> i was all over the capitol, greta. but when this happened... we had platoons surrounding the building, keeping track of the crowd. we do know where the tents were. however, having a ground view and the tents being about 40 deep into the crowd, we were unable to see what was going on. however, when our helicopter reported that it looked like the two canopies had collapsed, we sent two platoons of troopers there to make sure that nobody was injured or trapped under the tents. by the time our troopers worked their way through the crowds, the people were out of the tents. >> greta: now, i take it no arrests were made on the scene, that you didn't get the platoons or single police officers over to the area to make the arrest for these two who had started this destruction? >> no, ma'am. a crowd of this size, this size kind of a mob-like group at that time, is very fluid. we had
michigan state police inspector is here. good evening. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: were you outside on the grounds yesterday when this went down? >> i was all over the capitol, greta. but when this happened... we had platoons surrounding the building, keeping track of the crowd. we do know where the tents were. however, having a ground view and the tents being about 40 deep into the crowd, we were unable to see what was going on. however, when our helicopter reported...
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we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think i speak for howard dean when i say so now you tell me. >>> up next, not only does president obama have math on his side, he's got the polls too. he's taking his fiscal cliff case on the road. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pai
we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think i...
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blizzard warnings in eastern kansas and a snake of watches and warns from denver to eastern michigan. the result, up to a foot of snow and wind from the rockies to eastern iowa. starting tomorrow and make it to wisconsin by friday. >> okay, ginger is here now. take us through, what travellers should watch for. >> tonight, it's denver. tonight and early tomorrow, and northeast colorado. then we go for the wednesdayneb area. and even northern illinois, just touching of the suburbs of chicago, thursday and friday. you have severe storms and everybody is asking, does it get to the east coast? do we get a white christmas? looks like rain. >> we need a lot of high school day spirit in the errants and on the roads. thanks. >>> and still ahead, the abc news search for sluices. the front lines in the america gun crisis, inside the emergency rooms. what the doctors are seeing that could change the debate. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what?
blizzard warnings in eastern kansas and a snake of watches and warns from denver to eastern michigan. the result, up to a foot of snow and wind from the rockies to eastern iowa. starting tomorrow and make it to wisconsin by friday. >> okay, ginger is here now. take us through, what travellers should watch for. >> tonight, it's denver. tonight and early tomorrow, and northeast colorado. then we go for the wednesdayneb area. and even northern illinois, just touching of the suburbs of...
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it was lake michigan. >> it turned out, he was right. he came back for a do-over and went home with $125,000. game show gaffes are very, very rare. after the scandals of the 1950s when shows like "twenty one" were fixed to keep telegenic contestants in the mix, congress made it illegal to rig a game show. behind the bonhomie and banter, it's a tightly controlled medium. pat sajak chief of the persnickety pronunciation police just confirmed. >> renee knew what happened and it was kind of easy to do because you did it in the vernacular and said, "seven swans a swimmin.'" >> reporter: you're harsh, pat, you're harsh but fair. nick watt, abc news, los angeles. >> we'll hear what renee has to say about this tomorrow morning on "good morning america." we're always online at abcnews.com. be sure to watch "good morning america" first thing in the morning. we'll be here with your news and weather. i'll see you right back here tomorrow night. thank you for watching. good night.
it was lake michigan. >> it turned out, he was right. he came back for a do-over and went home with $125,000. game show gaffes are very, very rare. after the scandals of the 1950s when shows like "twenty one" were fixed to keep telegenic contestants in the mix, congress made it illegal to rig a game show. behind the bonhomie and banter, it's a tightly controlled medium. pat sajak chief of the persnickety pronunciation police just confirmed. >> renee knew what happened and...
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in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken unions. police stand shoulder to shoulder preparing for as many as 10,000 protesters at the michigan state capitol today. >> people have a constitutional right to demonstrate. however, all we ask is that they do it in an orderly, lawful, and civil manner. >> reporter: state legislators vote this morning on a right-to-work bill that would weaken unions. opponents acknowledge they're powerless to stop it. >> at the end of the day they'll be passed and signed by the governor. that doesn't make it right. >> reporter: the bill means michigan workers would no longer have to pay the union fees for negotiating contracts and other services. >> if i'm being provided a service by a pa
in michigan yesterday, president obama said the law was politically driven. susan mcginnis is in washington with details. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. yeah, the governor now says he wants the economic boost that the law would bring, the jobs and the companies that would locate there, but many disagree. workers say it's going to push down their pay and benefits and weaken unions. police stand shoulder to shoulder preparing for as many as 10,000 protesters at the michigan...
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in michigan republican lawmakers pushed through a right to work bill banning unions paying fees. they called the law an attack on worker's rights. >>> in greece, violence between protesters and police. >>> in bangladesh an official says that fire that killed 112 people last month was in a garment factory that had lost its safety certification back in june. also, the factory owner was authorized to run a three story business but it was illegally expanded to eight storiesed adding a ninth at the time of the late november blaze. >>> at the smithsonian museum in washington, the world's largest cut stone is now on display. the aqua marine gem is more than a foot tall and weighs almost five pounds. it's called the don pedro gemba. >>> we're going to find out how hard super storm sandy slammed the economy with the government's november jobs report. economists fear sandy battered hiring with estimates of 80 to 93,000 jobs added. that's compared to 171,000 in october. >>> well, good news though from yesterday's weekly jobless claims which held steady right around the pre-storm level. >>>
in michigan republican lawmakers pushed through a right to work bill banning unions paying fees. they called the law an attack on worker's rights. >>> in greece, violence between protesters and police. >>> in bangladesh an official says that fire that killed 112 people last month was in a garment factory that had lost its safety certification back in june. also, the factory owner was authorized to run a three story business but it was illegally expanded to eight storiesed...
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the scene in michigan today looked familiar. it looked like the scenes in indiana and in ohio and in wisconsin where those states voted to take away the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his historically very strong union state. governor snyder said, "you look at now that they've had those things happen, do they have a productive environment to solve problems? not necessarily. they're still overcoming the divisiveness, the hard feelings from all of that." at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher w
the scene in michigan today looked familiar. it looked like the scenes in indiana and in ohio and in wisconsin where those states voted to take away the rights of unions. in fact, it was exactly that kind of scene michigan governor rick snyder, a republican, had said he wanted to avoid. in february, governor snyder looked at those other midwestern states with republican governors and workers protesting in the state capital and decided he did not want that thing in michigan, not in his...
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totals are incredible for portions of wisconsin close to 20 inches of middleton cross lanes and even michigan at a foot of snow. and with the blowing snow that is causing the treacherous conditions on the roadways and in the air. i want to point out we have another storm moving in the pacific northwest and california. this is the main event millions of people live here millions of people traveling to get home. low pressure system is centered across the great lakes, the cold front associated with it moving across the northeast. that low will move into canada and the front will push offshore later on today. for now anywhere from philly to boston very messy. a lot of folks heading to the airport. it will be a very trying morning unfortunately on all of the major airports across the corridor. that low moves into canada and the associated cold front will push out pretty quickly. by today around 9:00 a.m. moving nort new york city and by 3 p. mchl the bulk of the rainfall will be in new england and the snow. we will see the leftover snow across the great lakes. in some cases we could see a foot of
totals are incredible for portions of wisconsin close to 20 inches of middleton cross lanes and even michigan at a foot of snow. and with the blowing snow that is causing the treacherous conditions on the roadways and in the air. i want to point out we have another storm moving in the pacific northwest and california. this is the main event millions of people live here millions of people traveling to get home. low pressure system is centered across the great lakes, the cold front associated...
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this is in detroit, michigan. he just stepped off of air force one and he's greeting folks on the tarmac. they're taking pictures. this is part of the campaign to reach out to the american people to make his case about the need to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and what his solution to that is. that would require that the top 2% of americans pay higher taxes. that is something he's been talking with republicans in congress about and believes is nonnegotiable. shaking hands there, and we're looking at the venue as well. that's where he's going to be speaking at the auto plant at the top of the hour. also saw the president last night at the christmas in washington charity concert in d.c. that event was hosted by conan o'brien and featured the legendary diana ross and psy, who was greeted by the president. the president did not attempt psy's signature dance, gangnam style. they were talking yesterday, but the president did suggest he thinks he can do it. he thinks he can do that dance. we're going to see if that a
this is in detroit, michigan. he just stepped off of air force one and he's greeting folks on the tarmac. they're taking pictures. this is part of the campaign to reach out to the american people to make his case about the need to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and what his solution to that is. that would require that the top 2% of americans pay higher taxes. that is something he's been talking with republicans in congress about and believes is nonnegotiable. shaking hands there, and we're...
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these are -- >> michigan. >> the way our electoral college is, we only worry about ten states invested in oil and fwas production. >> somes back to the economics as well. i look at my home state of pennsylvania where we had the early stages of huge boom of marcellus shale. hundreds of wells deployed. some companies are down to a couple wells. why? because the price has plummeted. the reason it's relevant to the politics is if this is a boom and bust, then those politics that get really engrained when a big part of the state's economics depend on that industry, maybe that doesn't take hold. that's where i think it's interesting in terms of end use industries, if you can see them come in, you have a different equation with that same resource. >> i want to talk about the price that has happened, because that's the background for all of this. this is what consumers tend to care about and voters when we talk about price of the pump and the people filling up on cable news. my sense is that the price of energy in some ways is too low at a certain level right now. i want to talk about that rig
these are -- >> michigan. >> the way our electoral college is, we only worry about ten states invested in oil and fwas production. >> somes back to the economics as well. i look at my home state of pennsylvania where we had the early stages of huge boom of marcellus shale. hundreds of wells deployed. some companies are down to a couple wells. why? because the price has plummeted. the reason it's relevant to the politics is if this is a boom and bust, then those politics that...